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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: ForeverFamily on February 10, 2012, 09:49 pm
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Anybody else getting an uneasy feeling about the fact that no vendors are able to withdraw any of their coins? As soon as they attempt to, the coins simply vanish... With SRs new name and all could the customer appreciation sale have just been a ploy to create a massive flow of bitcoins from vendors, straight to SRs wallet, which he simply stretches out over a few days by avoiding the problem until he's milked it for all its worth, only to make his escape?
--FF
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The withdraw bug has actually been happening for a long time, but it definitely seems to have gotten worse lately. I don't think SR has just run off with the money but why he hasn't publicly addressed the issues or responded to the people who are missing coins is beyond me.
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No.
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That was my first thought once the customer appreciation sale was announced right after SR was down because of who knows what (gawker, guns, ect) a week or two ago. And now vendors can't withdraw their bitcoins...sounds fishy, but lets be positive and hope it is just a bug, after all SR is filled with them...I would go as far to say that SR has more bugs then drugs for sale ::) .
Hopefully this is just a bit of paranoia on our part, because I would truly hate for our amazing vendors and community to get scammed and to go down in flames in such a way.
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He isnt pulling the big dirty!
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I seriously doubt he's pulling off a big scam, this site has been a huge investment in both time and money so I doubt he's just going to just throw it all away for some quick money.
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Just seems really odd that there has been hardly any communication about this. Its a very serious problem....
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Well he had all the coins he could ever want the moment the Customer Appreciation Sale ended... so if he was planning what you're suggesting the site would be gone by now, right?
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I am going to remain positive, and hope for a good outcome. Another mod has been updating the other thread in regards to this.
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Anybody else getting an uneasy feeling about the fact that no vendors are able to withdraw any of their coins? As soon as they attempt to, the coins simply vanish... With SRs new name and all could the customer appreciation sale have just been a ploy to create a massive flow of bitcoins from vendors, straight to SRs wallet, which he simply stretches out over a few days by avoiding the problem until he's milked it for all its worth, only to make his escape?
--FF
Haha. I think you are just being paranoid. (Too much weed?) My take is SR is swamped with work because of how fast the site is growing, that's why responses to this issue have been sketchy. That is why they are hiring. Until they've got some extra hands on deck problem resolution will be a bit slow.
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Another reason to remain positive as Delta11 reminded me is all the time and money put into SR. Just look at how much faster and responsive SR and the forums were all of a sudden after that down time...I'm sure that was in the works for a while. More then likely all these unlucky events are just a horrible coincidence.
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The withdraw bug has actually been happening for a long time, but it definitely seems to have gotten worse lately. I don't think SR has just run off with the money but why he hasn't publicly addressed the issues or responded to the people who are missing coins is beyond me.
I doubt its a glitch. Probably intentional.
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Quick to judge, quick to end
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I'm a vendor that lost $650 again last night. Withdrew to my wallets and nothing showed up there or blockexplorer. Plus I lost access to $460 and SR wont address the issue. Been almost 5 days now.
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I'd be curious to know the reason behind choosing the name DPR. Also why the customer appreciation thread was deleted.
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Threads still there, interesting post by radi8power.
Quote from: Silk Road on February 05, 2012, 04:48 AM
drum roll please.....................
and my new name is:
Dread Pirate Roberts
I'll give it a couple of days to sink in before actually changing it on the sites, but there you have it :D Can't wait to see who the winner is after I post this!
Excellent!
For those unwilling to open a new tab:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholomew_Roberts
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Bartholomew Roberts (17 May 1682 – 10 February 1722), born John Roberts, was a Welsh pirate who raided ships off America and West Africa between 1719 and 1722. He was the most successful pirate of the Golden Age of Piracy, as measured by vessels captured, taking over 470 prizes in his career.
And this one is most interesting, considering the occasion and timing:
http://www.lifehack.org/articles/management/life-lessons-of-the-dread-pirate-roberts.html
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In fact, there are quite a few things we can learn from the pirates of the 17th and 18th centuries. Like other organized criminals, pirates were consummate business people, whose taste for booty could only satisfied by shrewd thinking and practical action. Here, then, are six things the Dread Pirate Roberts might tell you if you hired him as a business consultant for your firm, or a life coach.
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Well he had all the coins he could ever want the moment the Customer Appreciation Sale ended... so if he was planning what you're suggesting the site would be gone by now, right?
Well, I'm not saying that this whole thing is actually a con, but.. as it stands right now, coins can only come into the Silk Road, but they can't exit. If, hypothetically, he was going to make a run with all the coins, it would make perfect sense to keep the site up as long as possible to let as many bitcoins come in. Honestly, if this issue doesn't get fixed or properly addressed by SR by the time the weekend is over, then it's time to get (very) worried.
Another theory that's interesting, is that maybe SR isn't conning everyone, but is actually handing off the business to another person, hence his name change.
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Regardless to what has transpired it is 100% INEXCUSABLE for SR not to have addressed this problem
on the forums
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Agreed. This is not going away. More and more people are having the same issue.
Regardless to what has transpired it is 100% INEXCUSABLE for SR not to have addressed this problem
on the forums
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Anybody else getting an uneasy feeling about the fact that no vendors are able to withdraw any of their coins? As soon as they attempt to, the coins simply vanish... With SRs new name and all could the customer appreciation sale have just been a ploy to create a massive flow of bitcoins from vendors, straight to SRs wallet, which he simply stretches out over a few days by avoiding the problem until he's milked it for all its worth, only to make his escape?
--FF
This guy's a scam artist appreciating the *idea* of an even bigger scam. Hopefully this thread indicates he got hit with the withdrawing bug trying to withdraw the bitcoins he scammed from a bunch of people recently.
Yo, FF, suck a dick, bitch. I called you out from the beginning. I guess it's time to make a new account and try again. One day, that karma's gonna get you right up the ass. Shame you'll probably enjoy it.
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Anybody else getting an uneasy feeling about the fact that no vendors are able to withdraw any of their coins? As soon as they attempt to, the coins simply vanish... With SRs new name and all could the customer appreciation sale have just been a ploy to create a massive flow of bitcoins from vendors, straight to SRs wallet, which he simply stretches out over a few days by avoiding the problem until he's milked it for all its worth, only to make his escape?
--FF
This guy's a scam artist appreciating the *idea* of an even bigger scam. Hopefully this thread indicates he got hit with the withdrawing bug trying to withdraw the bitcoins he scammed from a bunch of people recently.
Yo, FF, suck a dick, bitch. I called you out from the beginning. I guess it's time to make a new account and try again. One day, that karma's gonna get you right up the ass. Shame you'll probably enjoy it.
Nope, no new account. I'm sticking around. I bet I have an order from you next week ;D
--FF
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Just to let everyone know I have not read but the first half page of responses.
I do not think this is the case whatsoever. There has been many of bugs in all different aspects. SHIT HAPPENS! As to why it wasn't publicly addressed, I think he does not want to scare of new vendors as well as well as long time vendors. He needs these people to be able to earn a commission.
SR is going to make a hell of a lot more money in the long run through commissions than he would if he was to just shut down immediately and take everyones cash. You need to think, with all of this recent advertising through these news articals, there is going to be another influx of buyers as well as sellers.
SR is the captain of this ship and he is going to be with until the bitter end. This experiment we have is just that, and he wants to see how far it can go and if it will change things (for the better).
Stop with the paranoia! Yes their are glitches and bugs, but you must think this is a NEW development. Shit happens that is beyond our control or even his. But these issues that keep popping up will be addressed as soon as possible (just like they always are)!
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As someone already stated this is a glitch somewhere as many others have transferred coins out of SR -> xyz.
Not only that but in another thread D.A. came out and said the problem was known and is being addressed behind the scenes. I have no idea what happened but I do know that they will make it right. If you have been around here long enough you would know that these sort of things happen. Not at one time has anyone been ripped off by SR.
Greatest con ever? More like best website ever. You will get your money back, chill the fuck out. You really think he is gonna run away with a couple thousand dollars? lol I know it sucks to be out of coin for a few days but I am putting my full faith in SR making this right.
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i hope so i wanna get some bitcoin and go shopping ;D
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add me to the list as a victim. only 11.15btc though so i won't raise a fuss.
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tott.....did you just put them in or have they been in there for awhile?
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i had deposited a good bit only 2 days ago and luckily spent 80% or so of it. did a withdrawal of the balance to a IW at the end of yesterday b/c i wasn't sure when i would be able to get back on. not quite to 24 hours and both balances are still at 0. sent a note requesting my account is added to the list to check into.
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Is it more of a random bug? If you want to withdraw a large amount, would splitting it increase the odds of getting most of it through until it's been fixed?
ETA: SR just addressed it and says it's fixed: http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=11801.0
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For those unwilling to open a new tab:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholomew_Roberts
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Bartholomew Roberts (17 May 1682 – 10 February 1722), born John Roberts, was a Welsh pirate...
Or you could, you know, link to the page actually about Dread Pirate Roberts, who is not to be confused with Bart Roberts, a pirate named Roberts.
The correct page would be:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dread_Pirate_Roberts
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i think they are just under staffed, especially in the customer support side of things.
although i cant understand why they transitioned to a new withdrawal system on the live site without properly testing it on a sandboxed silkroad, probably some issue with increasing the number of servers to handle the ever growing demand and keeping them all properly synchronized. see ccs and/or csp.
fruity
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Anybody else getting an uneasy feeling about the fact that no vendors are able to withdraw any of their coins? As soon as they attempt to, the coins simply vanish... With SRs new name and all could the customer appreciation sale have just been a ploy to create a massive flow of bitcoins from vendors, straight to SRs wallet, which he simply stretches out over a few days by avoiding the problem until he's milked it for all its worth, only to make his escape?
--FF
This guy's a scam artist appreciating the *idea* of an even bigger scam. Hopefully this thread indicates he got hit with the withdrawing bug trying to withdraw the bitcoins he scammed from a bunch of people recently.
Yo, FF, suck a dick, bitch. I called you out from the beginning. I guess it's time to make a new account and try again. One day, that karma's gonna get you right up the ass. Shame you'll probably enjoy it.
Nope, no new account. I'm sticking around. I bet I have an order from you next week ;D
--FF
Dick.
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...i doubt its due to lack of people, there are more here than before....and surely more "people" means more to work and fix?!
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...i doubt its due to lack of people, there are more here than before....and surely more "people" means more to work and fix?!
Yes but it's been a while since they've recruited for the official SR team, publicly at least.
The withdrawal bug has been addressed:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=11801.0
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I don't think splitting would help. i made two transactions today, one was around 15 and the other 50 BTC. I got the 50 BTC but the 15 BTC didn't come. I'm missing as small as 0.2 BTC and up to 60 BTC from one transaction, so size doesn't play a part in it.
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I am sticking
i wouldn't want to be in SR's shoes -roll the dice - Will this employee be the one to screw
me when they get a hair up their ass? Get a disposable phone with no gps so he/she
can call when shit hits fan!!!
Seriously SR get someone to answer the damn PM's and write some code to put the
bitchy vendors on separate list!!! READ THOSE FIRST LOL : P
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He/she/they would never take all the coins and walk away from the site / shut it down overnight for one reason:
Without SR, the value of BTC would be almost nothing. This website drives a huge part of the BTC economy. To steal coins and shut down SR would be shooting oneself in the foot.
I think it's just a technical error, a huge influx of new users, and a small staff.
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I am sticking
i wouldn't want to be in SR's shoes -roll the dice - Will this employee be the one to screw
me when they get a hair up their ass? Get a disposable phone with no gps so he/she
can call when shit hits fan!!!
Seriously SR get someone to answer the damn PM's and write some code to put the
bitchy vendors on separate list!!! READ THOSE FIRST LOL : P
did DPR ever credited your account again?he told me last night he would but never did for 100btc that went missing from a transaction.
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He/she/they would never take all the coins and walk away from the site / shut it down overnight for one reason:
Without SR, the value of BTC would be almost nothing. This website drives a huge part of the BTC economy. To steal coins and shut down SR would be shooting oneself in the foot.
I think it's just a technical error, a huge influx of new users, and a small staff.
Actually SR is only around 1% of all BTC traffic according to some knowledgeable people on IRC. Have a look on block explorer, there are some huge transactions happening all the time.
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- i never thought for 1 sec SR would have that much of an effect on btc value....instinct tells me the laundry has been going on and i wouldn't be the least surprised if
some big names are using btc's to shift money around (not suggesting SR specifically...)...cos they obviously don't care about how big the amts are coming thru'..
- stick around, its possible they are still verifying the amt and where its got to.
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interesting
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I am sticking
i wouldn't want to be in SR's shoes -roll the dice - Will this employee be the one to screw
me when they get a hair up their ass? Get a disposable phone with no gps so he/she
can call when shit hits fan!!!
Seriously SR get someone to answer the damn PM's and write some code to put the
bitchy vendors on separate list!!! READ THOSE FIRST LOL : P
+1
Good constructive criticism.
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I am sticking
i wouldn't want to be in SR's shoes -roll the dice - Will this employee be the one to screw
me when they get a hair up their ass? Get a disposable phone with no gps so he/she
can call when shit hits fan!!!
Seriously SR get someone to answer the damn PM's and write some code to put the
bitchy vendors on separate list!!! READ THOSE FIRST LOL : P
did DPR ever credited your account again?he told me last night he would but never did for 100btc that went missing from a transaction.
Yes he did - all is right as rain...:)
I have to get home soon so i can credit his though :P
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Maybe it's time for another site to come and take over where SR is stuck at.....
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Prepare for the inevitable.
This place at some point will be gone.
Whether Silk gets busted, decides to pack it in and fuck off or whatever. This place isn't going to be around forever.
Find alternatives, hell, even set-up your own fucking shop. Do you guys realise how much $$$ he's making from the commission and escrow rape alone? The dude is going to be minted by the time this year is up. The logical decision for him would be to fucking bail. His philosophical bs rants is all for show, it's always been about the money.
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Prepare for the inevitable.
This place at some point will be gone.
Whether Silk gets busted, decides to pack it in and fuck off or whatever. This place isn't going to be around forever.
Find alternatives, hell, even set-up your own fucking shop. Do you guys realise how much $$$ he's making from the commission and escrow rape alone? The dude is going to be minted by the time this year is up. The logical decision for him would be to fucking bail. His philosophical bs rants is all for show, it's always been about the money.
Yeah man, he's just going to bail when his revenue stream is increasing by the day. Think before you post.
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Prepare for the inevitable.
This place at some point will be gone.
Whether Silk gets busted, decides to pack it in and fuck off or whatever. This place isn't going to be around forever.
Find alternatives, hell, even set-up your own fucking shop. Do you guys realise how much $$$ he's making from the commission and escrow rape alone? The dude is going to be minted by the time this year is up. The logical decision for him would be to fucking bail. His philosophical bs rants is all for show, it's always been about the money.
Yeah man, he's just going to bail when his revenue stream is increasing by the day. Think before you post.
Honestly hes just saying whats on the mind of several people here in the community, with all the money floating in escrow and transactions that havent been finalized, vendors/customers who keep btc on their account hedge, if he up and left he would probably be leaving with way more than he is making on a day to day basis
ive heard some vendors doing business legitimately yielded them little profit, however, with a vendor account that has excellent feedback and the trust of the community they can run away with Much much more, examples that come to mind are SYG who ran with 10k and ive even heard someone running with 30k. just saying SR is obviously dealing with coins in the 6-7 figures although he is making good money keeping the site alive, his decision to just up and leave can happen on a dime
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There's always going to be an element of risk. You're never going to eliminate that, because to do so would mean compromising his identity. Remember you're on a black market website. If you're not prepared to take risks you shouldn't be here. Anonymity is what drives Silk Road. If someone thinks they could do a better job with an alternative website, I'd love to see it.
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So any update on this bug? i thought about becoming a seller but kinda worried now
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http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=11801.0